Sibley is for Losers
We’re speechless. It’s the year 2025 and astrologers are still using the Sibley Chart for the United States.
Why? What stupidity would lead people to use the Sibley Chart?
We’re forced to conclude that any astrologer using the Sibley Chart has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they aren’t really an astrologer. They just think they are.
The Sibley Chart is the wrong chart because:
- Nothing happened on July 4th
- The Declaration does not create the United States
- The Sibley Chart is an invalid chart (and real astrologers know that)
- The Sibley Chart is a massive spectacular fail
Nothing Happened on July 4th
Folks, that is not news. It’s been a matter of historical fact and record since 1906 which was 119 years ago for those who are mathematically challenged. Even the United States government says nothing happened. So, how stupid is Nick Campion not to know that? He truly sucks. Not only as an historian, but as an astrologer. He ain’t got nothing on Marco (who has a BA in History). The Declaration of Independence (hereinafter “Declaration”) was not signed on July 4th, 1776.
We think it would help if you understand how things work. Those 50-odd men who were the Continental Congress kept journals of their activities. The had a Secret Journal of Congress. If you haven’t already done so, now would be a good time to take your Dremel® tool, drill a hole in your skull. grab a boning knife to get rid of those anachronisms. It’s 1776. Everybody has a fire burning 24/7 in their home whether it’s in the hearth or their Ben Franklin stove. Those men were traitors committing treason and both crimes are punishable by a horrible death. If British storm-troopers came into their place to search it, they could throw the Secret Journal into the fire. The evidence burns up. The British are none the wiser.
The Rough Journal of Congress was for jotting down notes of their activities. They organized their notes and rewrote them later in the Corrected Journal of Congress. Those three documents — The Secret Journal, Rough Journal and the Corrected Journal — are collectively known as the Journals of Congress. Those are the source documents historians use (except for Nick Campion who is oblivious to their existence) and what you should use when doing your own research.
Let’s talk about parliamentary procedure. Can we all agree that those men were not homeless men living in a homeless shelter jotting down notes on scraps of paper and they were not prisoners in a prison writing their appellate briefs for their appeals on the back of a magazine cover? Please say, “Yes, we can agree.” The Declaration was written on several pages of paper containing edits and proof-reader’s marks. Why would those men sign an unofficial document? Stop with the anachronisms already. It wasn’t a photo-op where they sign it for show with the media circus present in front of video cameras to be edited into a 30 second sound-bite for network news. More to the point, why would those men sign an unofficial document knowing in advance it may have to be changed?
On July 2nd, the four men of the New York Delegation received a notice by messenger forbidding them to vote for or sign anything. On the morning of July 3rd, the four men of the New York Delegation left Philadelphia to head back to Albany, New York to find out why they weren’t allowed to vote for it or sign it. Because those men left and would be gone for at least 10 days, many other delegates left Philadelphia. Nine of the delegates are known to have left and the whereabouts of four other men cannot be confirmed meaning no one knows if they were in Philadelphia or not.
We know for an absolute fact nothing was signed on July 4th thanks to Delegate Samuel Chase of Maryland. Since the New York Delegation left on July 3rd and nothing was going to be signed, Chase rode his horse back to Maryland. On July 5th he wrote to Massachusetts Delegate John Adams:
I hope ere this Time the decisive blow is struck. Opposition, Inhumanity and Perfidy have compelled Us to it. Blessed be Men who effect the Work, I envy You! How shall I transmit to posterity that I gave my assent?
Chase is understandably concerned. This is a momentous event in history and he wants to be sure everyone knows he was a part of it. Adams writes a reply letter on July 9th to assure Chase he hasn’t missed out on anything and nothing was signed:
As soon as an American Seal is prepared, I conjecture the Declaration will be Subscribed by all the Members, which will give you the opportunity you wish for, of transmitting your Name, among the Votaries of Independence.
“Will be” equals future tense. Adams tells Chase no one signed anything and that the signing will take place at a future date. Everybody get over it.
Elbridge Gerry was present in Philadelphia on July 4th and yet after departing on July 16th to return to Massachusetts, he wrote this letter on July 21st to fellow Delegates John and Samuel Adams:
Pray subscribe for me the Declaration of Independence if the same is to be signed as proposed. I think We ought to have the privilege when necessarily absent of voting and signing by proxy.
Why didn’t Gerry sign the Declaration on July 4th while he was in Philadelphia? Gerry could have signed it anytime between July 4th and July 16th before he left Philadelphia, so why didn’t he sign it then? Yet, here he is freaking out that he won’t have a chance to sign it when in fact he had 12 days to sign it. Gerry didn’t sign it on July 4th because there was nothing to sign and nothing was supposed to be signed because nothing was supposed to happen on July 4th. Just get over it, already.
To rub salt into the wound, Elbridge Gerry wrote this letter to Massachusetts legislator James Warren on July 5th:
I have the pleasure to inform you that a determined resolution of the delegates from some of the colonies to push the question of independency has had a most happy effect, and after a day’s debate all the colonies excepting New-York, whose delegates are not empowered to give either an affirmative or negative voice, united in a declaration long sought for, solicited and necessary, the declaration of independency. New-York will most probably on Monday next, when its convention meets for forming a constitution, join in the measure, and then it will be entitled the unanimous declaration of the thirteen United States of America.
“[W]ill be entitled….” Gerry is telling you this unofficial document that no one signed on July 4th doesn’t even have an official title. Man up, already.
The Journals of Congress make no mention of anything being signed on July 4th. The four men from the New York Delegation returned to Philadelphia on July 16th. They spent the next four days hammering out some minor subtle changes to the Declaration and deciding what the title of the Declaration should be. The entry for the Journals of Congress for July 19th states that the Declaration should be:
…fairly engrossed on parchment with the title and stile [sic]: “The unanimous declaration of the thirteen United States of America”…and that the same, when engrossed, be signed by every member of Congress.
Well, there you go.
Parliamentary procedure. No one is going to sign an unofficial document that doesn’t even have a title. Again, after the four members of the New York Delegation return, they spend four days hashing out some minor changes and they gave the document an official title. Then they sent it out to the printer to be “engrossed on parchment.”
Delegate Timothy Matlack took the unofficial unsigned Declaration which has an actual title now and was scrawled on 3 pieces of paper and re-wrote it in really pretty hand-writing on parchment which is thicker, sturdier, more durable and longer lasting than the ordinary paper of the day. He used over-sized parchment so it could be written on a single sheet with enough room to affix the seal of the United States and room for all 56 delegates to sign it.
And it was signed August 2nd, not July 4th.
Deal with it.
Those who know history know that after Germany surrendered in May 1945, Americans were doing the Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy Dance, and the U.S. Congress debated changing Independence Day to August 2nd but didn’t.
Why?
Americans thought the boys were coming home. Now. When the government said, “We’re invading Japan,” Americans got very, very angry. That meant their fathers, husbands, brothers and sons would be gone for another 2-3 years, at least, and a greater likelihood they’d be killed or injured. Congress very wisely decided to celebrate Independence Day sooner rather than later to whip Americans into a patriotic frenzy and get that knee-jerking to get Americans onboard with the government’s invasion plans. That’s why.
The Declaration Does Not Create the United States
A plain language reading of the text of the Declaration makes it painfully obvious there is no “United States.”
We’re grateful to Hunter who used to teach college students the Declaration when he was getting his PhD because the university stupidly admitted students who did not know what an essay was or how to write an essay. The Declaration is the premier quintessential example of an essay containing all 5 parts:
- A preamble stating their biases
- An hypothesis
- Facts in support of the hypothesis
- A conclusion drawn from the facts
- Generalizations
Now, for high school or college students, only the hypothesis, facts in support, and conclusion are necessary for a well-written essay but it’s important to fully understand the big picture. Note the clause in the opening line of the Preamble stating their biases:
When in the Course of human events…
The word “Course” is capitalized. In 1776 Colonial America, the word “course” was a slang term in colonial vernacular for a woman’s menstrual cycle. You can probably envision this scene taking place in a tavern in Philadelphia between Samuel Chase, Elbridge Gerry and Benjamin Franklin (not to gross you out or anything):
Sam Chase: Hey, Ben, you gonna go home and have it on with the old lady?
Ben Franklin: Stiffen the Dragons! No way. She’s on her course.
A woman’s menstrual cycle occurs every 28 days (normally) and the operand in “menstrual cycle” is “cycle.”
What were those men saying when they wrote, “When in the Course of human events…?” They’re telling you their biases and here specifically, they’re telling you they believe history is cyclical. We think it is, too. There’s a plethora of evidence to support the notion that history is cyclical and when you reach a level of proficiency in astrology you can delve into our mundane astrology and see how history cycles mesh with planetary cycles.
The unanimous Declaration o’f the thirteen united States of America…
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled…
That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States…
….and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
We didn’t stutter. Neither did they. It’s “united” with a lower-case “u” not an upper-case “U.” The Declaration creates 13 totally separate independent “States.” Americans are politically-science-challenged and don’t understand that “state” is synonymous with “country” meaning country = state and state = country. The Colonies are united only in their desire to be independent, and nothing more.
Who governed those 13 Colonies-turned-countries? Not the 2nd Continental Congress. It had no authority, no power and no jurisdiction over any of the 13 newly formed countries. It’s authority was very narrowly limited and it did not include bossing the 13 new countries around.
Who do the governors of Virginia, Maryland, Vermont, New York et al report to?
No one. They are the sovereigns. Of course, the British had a different view, that the governors report to the King but we don’t do kings. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not a burning bush or taking ass or some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Put another way, those 13 newly created independent countries do not report to the 2nd Continental Congress because it has no authority and no jurisdiction. For those who do doubt, you might want to read Article II of the Articles of Confederation (hereinafter “the Articles”):
Article II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence….
The States cannot retain something they never had in the first place. The States were always sovereign independent countries and no United States existed until the morning of March 2, 1781 when they came together for the very first time under one banner. Three concepts related to the type of government are either not taught in U.S. schools or they are poorly taught and those are:
- The unitary-State
- Confederation
- Federation
To form a confederation or a federation, a country voluntarily surrenders certain rights inherent to a sovereign country to another government for the express purpose of facilitating those inherent sovereign rights. Under the Articles those 13 countries voluntarily surrendered certain inherent sovereign rights to the central government. Under the current U.S. Constitution, all 50 sovereign countries have agreed to voluntarily surrender certain specific rights inherent to a sovereign country such as the right to coin money, engage in diplomacy, enter into treaties, and to wage or declare war on a foreign power to another government, namely, the federal government. Under this arrangement there are dual sovereigns: each State is sovereign and the federal government is also a sovereign.
The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly said so, and most recently in Gamble v. United States, 587 U.S. 678 (2019).
No matter how you slice it, the Sibley Chart is wrong.
The Sibley Chart is an Invalid Chart (and Real Astrologers Know That)
Are you using your Conception Chart to make interpretations and predictions about your life? Do you use the Conception Charts of clients, friends or other people to make interpretations and predictions?
No?
Well, then, congratulations are in order. Congratulations for proving we are right.
A Declaration Chart is equivalent to a Conception Chart. A Conception Chart answers one primary question: Will there be a live birth? The chart will indicate miscarriage, abortion, a still-birth, or a live birth, and also indicate the health of the mother and whether she survives the birth, in addition to whether the mother survives the birth.
A Declaration Chart is the same. It answers one primary question: Will the group’s bid for independence be successful? It will indicate why or why not and problems along the way.
Palestine’s bid for independence was DOA (Dead On Arrival). Astrology 101. Ruler of the 8th in the 1st (and ruling the 1st House). Venus opposition Mars is a disaster. Even more so since the configuration is actually Venus right square Saturn right square Mars opposition Venus.
Mars is in aversion to the Scorpio 8th House. Of the remaining water trigon rulers, Jupiter is in aversion leaving Moon as domicile master of the Scorpio 8th. Technically, Moon is lord (kurios) of the 8th House, but we use domicile master to reduce the confusion for our students.
Note Jupiter as domicile ruler and master of the 12th House in the 3rd House.
The Sibley Chart is no different than a Conception Chart. Once the end is known good or bad the chart is of no further value. The “...united States in Congress Assembled…” ratified the Treaty of Paris on January 14, 1784 officially ending the conflict between the Colonies and Great Britain and recognizing the United States under the Articles as an independent sovereign country, at which time the Sibley Chart became invalid.
Y’all are gonna throw out your birth charts, figure out your time of conception, cast a chart and start using it, right? No? Because if you’re not, your position is completely hypocritical. If you want, we’ll call 9-11 to have EMTs standing by, you know, just in case you hurt your back moving the goal-posts.
A pretend astrologer, after whining and crying in their safe-space, refused to accept Reality® claiming that the “intent” to sign the Declaration on July 4th mattered. Really? Notwithstanding the fact that there was no intent to sign anything there is no intent in mundane and natal astrology. Either something happened or it did not. “Intent” only applies to the other branch of astrology for horary or electional charts.
Are you claiming the Sibley Chart is an horary chart? We sure hope not, because that would be silly but at the same time it invalidates the Sibley Chart. The “intent” argument is invalidated further since the 2nd Continental Congress was formed expressly to:
- Draft the Articles of Confederation; and
- Draft the Declaration; and
- Raise an army; and
- Raise funding for the army; and
- Appoint a commander for the army
The quickest way out of this quagmire is to grow up, accept the facts and admit the Sibley Chart is wrong.
While we’re at it the chart for the Articles of Confederation is wrong, too.
Just in case some of you can’t quite wrap your brains around the concept, in natal astrology, mundane astrology, event astrology and forensic astrology, nothing happens until it happens. The ratification of the Articles is not the overt act necessary to cast a chart. If you know your history, a couple of States, namely New York and Maine, considered backing out at the last minute. New York due to long standing grievances with Virginia which were never really resolved and Maine because residents thought they had greater affinity to Canada.
The overt act is when all 13 delegates from each State showed up on the morning of March 2, 1781 and the meeting of the first “…united States in Congress assembled...” was called to order. The fact that the U.S. got a new constitution later changes nothing.
If you don’t believe that, we’ll prove it to you. When you graduated high school and got your diploma, did you throw away your birth-chart and cast a new chart for the date, time and location you graduated? No, you didn’t. When you got married did you throw away your natal chart and cast a new one for the date, time and location you got married?
No, you didn’t and that is why we do not cast a new chart just because a country has crisp new piece of paper to wave around.
If you want proof the Sibley Chart is wrong, just read it:
Jupiter as domicile ruler of the Sagittarius 1st House in the 8th House tells you the U.S. fails to gain independence. So, how stupid are people who can’t even read the chart right?
The Sibley Chart is a Massive Spectacular Fail
Instead of looking at what astrologers predicted that failed, we find it more impressive to show you what astrologers failed to predict. Astrologers failed to predict
- The assassination of:
- President Garfield
- President McKinley
- President Kennedy
- The attempted assassination of:
- President Truman
- President Ford
- President Reagan
- (Note: the attempt on Trump doesn’t count since he was a candidate, not a president)
- The death in office of:
- President Harding
- President F D Roosevelt
- The incapacitation of:
- President Wilson
- The resignation of:
- President Nixon
- The impeachment of:
- President Clinton
- President Trump (2x)
- The ratification of 12 different amendments to the U.S. Constitution including the income tax amendment, women’s suffrage, the direct election of senators, both amendments related to prohibition, and the voting age amendment.
- Economic crises:
- 6th worst stock market crash 1901-1903
- 3rd worst stock market crash (was #1 at the time) 1906-1907 leading to creation of Federal Reserve
- 9th worst stock market crash in history 1916-1917
- 5th worst stock market crash in history 1919-1921
- 4th worst stock market collapse in 1929
- The absolute worst stock market crash in history 1930-1932
- 2nd worst stock market crash in history 1937-1938
- 8th worst stock market crash in history 1939-1942
- 7th worst stock market crash 1973-74
- 1987 Black Monday Crash
- 2000 Dot.com Crash
- 1973-74 OPEC oil embargo
- 1975-1985 Federal Reserve interest rates at times greater than 20%
- Recessions
- 1925-26 Recession
- 1928-29 Recession
- 1935-37 Recession
- 1946 Recession
- 1949 Recession
- 1951-52 Recession
- 1955-56 Recession
- 1960-61 Recession
- 1969-70 Recession
- 1977-78 Recession
- 1981-82 Recession
- 1989-90 Recession
- 2000-2002 Recession
- 2008-2010 Recession
- Political Crises:
- Civil Rights marches, protests, demonstrations and violence that continued int the 1960’s
- the Berlin Crisis
- the Bay of Pigs
- Cuban Missile Crisis
- 1968 Democratic National Convention
- Large-scale protests and anti-war demonstrations
- 1970 Kent State
- Iranian Hostage Crisis
- STUPID-19
- Government lock-downs resulting in recessions
- Military Actions:
- Spanish-American War (the US gained a number of colonies/territories)
- Brazen attacks on Colombia to gain control of Colombian Province of Panama
- U.S. involvement in WW I
- U.S. invasion of Mexico to overthrow the government and seize the oil fields
- Attack on Pearl Harbor and the entry of US into WW I
- Korean War
- Vietnam War
- Libya
- Lebanon
- the Gulf War
- Serbia, Bosnia and Kosovo-Metohija
- World Trace Center Attacks
- Invasion of Afghanistan
- Invasion of Iraq
That’s pretty much what a mundane chart will tell you and astrologers failed to predict any of those events.
What did Einstein say?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Einstein’s definitely onto something.